Posted by PZ Myers on August 23, 2004 05:16 PM

The Loom has been quiet for most of the summer, but Carl Zimmer is back with a lucid summary of recent data on human genome evolution—and it may be a little disquieting to those who think monogamy is natural and traditional and the only properly human way to propagate.

Trackback URL: http://www.pandasthumb.org/cgi-bin/mt/mt-tb.cgi/443

Comment #6755

Posted by Wayne Francis on August 23, 2004 10:59 PM (e) (s)

Charlie, I imagine you are mass cross posting this.  Please keep it to sites that are relevant.  I say this not because of my political views but for respect of others.  Sure those that don’t care could skip it but if everyone does this then sites like this become like so many others sites that have just got swamped with useless information for what the site was originally set up for.

Don’t read into this anything but the fact that PT is place to “discuss evolutionary theory, critique the claims of the antievolution movement, defend the integrity of both science and science education, and share good conversation.” 

While your post might fit under “share good conversation” it is better served in the appropriate location even on PT, The bathroom wall.

Comment #6756

Posted by PZ Myers on August 23, 2004 11:12 PM (e) (s)

Yes, or on my site, where I don’t mind blathering about politics. But not here.

Comment #6757

Posted by Reed A. Cartwright on August 24, 2004 03:09 AM (e) (s)

I’ve dumped Charlie’s comments to the bathroom wall.

Comment #6762

Posted by charlie wagner on August 24, 2004 09:07 AM (e) (s)

Charlie, I imagine you are mass cross posting this.

No. That would be spamming, and I disapprove of that. I target very carefully to interested persons. I know how strongly many of you feel about creationism in schools (as do I) so I felt this was a more than appropriate place to offer this information.

Comment #6763

Posted by charlie wagner on August 24, 2004 09:13 AM (e) (s)

sites like this become like so many others sites that have just got swamped with useless information for what the site was originally set up for.

  One of the purposes of this site is to “defend the integrity of both science and science education,”. George Bush is blatently anti-science and supports the Christian fundamentalist agenda. What could be more appropriate than working to remove him from office?
  It’s certainly a lot more productive than what usually happens here, beating the earth where a horse stood 10 years ago.

Comment #6772

Posted by PZ Myers on August 24, 2004 01:18 PM (e) (s)

I think PT at least aspires to be non-partisan, although I agree that Bush is making that very hard to do.

If you really want to sound off, send a request to me and I can create an open thread on Pharyngula, and everyone can rant away about politics all they want. Here, it would be better if you responded to the actual topic in the opening article.

Comment #6781

Posted by charlie wagner on August 24, 2004 03:02 PM (e) (s)

If you really want to sound off, send a request to me and I can create an open thread on Pharyngula, and everyone can rant away about politics all they want. Here, it would be better if you responded to the actual topic in the opening article.

  You don’t win these battles being a “summer soldier”.
Sometimes you have to take risks and annoy people to get their attention. This is too important to ignore. Why don’t you post more substantive anti-Bush stuff on your site? Quoting Jon Stewart is all well and good, but there’s HARD news out there that never gets to see the light of day, like the new evidence revealed by the Washington Post, that was buried in the 49th paragraph of a news story:
  “But how did the Post present this new info? Incredibly, they buried the new info way near the end of a lengthy, detailed report. Indeed, if readers wanted to learn these new facts, they had to read almost to the end of a 4100-word story!”

http://www.dailyhowler.com…

Comment #8103

Posted by Bob Maurus on September 29, 2004 02:25 PM (e) (s)

What happened to the thread about sexual selection? I was really looking forward to Gary McGuire’s next post to see if he’d outdo himself.

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