Reed A. Cartwright posted Entry 3092 on April 26, 2007 12:24 PM.
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Yesterday, I wrote about Wiley Interscience and the Society of Chemical Industry making legal threats against fair use: Wiley Interscience: Where Science Meets Legal Threats.

Today, Shelley Batts received an apology from them:

We apologise for any misunderstanding. In this situation the publisher would typically grant permission on request in order to ensure that figures and extracts are properly credited. We do not think there is any need to pursue this matter further.

Congrats to everyone who helped get the word out about the threats. You helped Shelley and the rest of the science-bloggers out.

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Comment #172189

Posted by Gary Hurd on April 26, 2007 12:37 PM (e)

Not much of an apology. “We do not think there is any need to pursue this matter further.”

Sure they don’t. Greedy scums.

Comment #172198

Posted by Dave Cerutti on April 26, 2007 1:03 PM (e)

Is the title meant to contrast with ID-related individuals and groups, where baseless legal threats are the modus operandi, often retracted but never apologized for?

Comment #172199

Posted by Jeff Chamberlain on April 26, 2007 1:04 PM (e)

What Gary said.

Go to Retrospectacle and read the whole thing, and see if you can figure out what’s changed.

Comment #172200

Posted by Reed A. Cartwright on April 26, 2007 1:07 PM (e)

The title is parody of the slogan found in the emails sent to Shelley: “SCI - where science meets business”. I used such a parody yesterday and felt like I should use another one.

Comment #172226

Posted by Reed A. Cartwright on April 26, 2007 3:28 PM (e)

Mengele, how can Genie Scott lose a lawsuit if she was never actually sued?

Go try to find some information that she or NCSE was ever served with the lawsuit you are thinking of. Go ahead, look at court records. You won’t find any information.

Comment #172230

Posted by JohnK on April 26, 2007 3:34 PM (e)

WrongwayMengele must be talking about the frivolous-lawsuit-happy Caldwell, who dropped his claim.

Comment #172231

Posted by Reed A. Cartwright on April 26, 2007 3:37 PM (e)

Hmm, I must have remembered it wrong. I thought Caldwell filed against the magazine but never filed papers against Genie and NCSE; although, he threated to and/or claimed to have done it.

Comment #172233

Posted by Reed A. Cartwright on April 26, 2007 3:41 PM (e)

Okay, he never served Genie with the suit. That was what I remembered.

Comment #172248

Posted by JohnK on April 26, 2007 5:37 PM (e)

There was no settlement agreement and no proposed settlement. Scott simply corrected a few minor errors in her article, the most significant involving dis-attributing two things from Caldwell to his partner in the “information session”. Lawsuit went poof. End of story.

Comment #172265

Posted by ruidh on April 26, 2007 7:05 PM (e)

They *still* don’t get it.

You don’t need permission to make a fair use.

Comment #172308

Posted by Popper's Ghost on April 27, 2007 1:20 AM (e)

Oh no, the evolutionists never make legal threats, no sir!

Why don’t you ask Eugenie Scott about the guy she slandered and who sued her?

Then it was his legal threat, not hers, you effing moron.

Comment #172309

Posted by Popper's Ghost on April 27, 2007 1:22 AM (e)

And anyway, who ever said that evolutionists don’t make legal threats? If you creationist types don’t want people to think that you’re all cretins, why do you always act like you are?

Comment #172313

Posted by Sir_Toejam on April 27, 2007 1:37 AM (e)

And anyway, who ever said that evolutionists don’t make legal threats? If you creationist types don’t want people to think that you’re all cretins, why do you always act like you are?

who ever said they don’t want people to think they’re cretins?

they take pride in their ignorance.

ignorance is strength.

just ask fearless leader, he’ll tell ya.

Comment #172316

Posted by Popper's Ghost on April 27, 2007 1:57 AM (e)

who ever said they don’t want people to think they’re cretins?

I asked them a question. I’d be happy to have them agree that they’re all cretins. I do believe, however, that some would deny it.

Comment #172828

Posted by Moses on April 30, 2007 7:04 PM (e)

Comment #172309

Posted by Popper’s Ghost on April 27, 2007 1:22 AM (e)

And anyway, who ever said that evolutionists don’t make legal threats? If you creationist types don’t want people to think that you’re all cretins, why do you always act like you are?

Sigh… Because with their crowd it’s a badge of honor to be ignorant. The more ignorant the better. They’ll have 10 coaches and a million dollar field for a HS football team, tell you it’s “making money” when it isn’t, but won’t put enough money in the budget for a physics teacher because it’s not required to pass the state competency test.

Comment #186450

Posted by agnes on July 7, 2007 11:42 AM (e)

;)The most perfidious way of harming a cause consists of defending it deliberately with faulty arguments.